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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Ganja = Narkotik? Ganja lebih bahaya daripada Rokok/Alkohol? Reply with quote

Ganja = Narkotik? Ganja lebih bahaya daripada Rokok/Alkohol?
Is it really the truth? Are you interested in finding the truth about ganja?

Topik ini saya buat karena diskusi soal ganja sudah terlalu melebar dalam topik berjudul:
Haram utk Memberi & Meminta sumbangan di pinggir jalan ?
http://www.ekaristi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8712

Kalau anda bisa jujur pada diri sendiri dalam melihat hasil studi resmi & penelitian ilmiah dan anda bisa berpikir kritis serta terbuka tanpa prasangka, silahkan baca ini:

MARIJUANA (CANNABIS) FACT SHEET
ISSUES STUDY COMMITTEE OF THE BRUIN HUMANIST FORUM
Copyrighted by the Bruin Humanist Forum 1967



Marijuana is not a narcotic. It is pharmacologically distinct from the family of opium derivatives and synthetic narcotics. (Wolstenholme, 1965; Watt, 1965; Garattini, 1965; 1 Crim 5351 Calif. District Court of Appeal, 1st Appel. Dist.)

Marijuana is not addicting. The use does not develop any physical dependence . (Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, New York City, 1944; Allentuck & Bowman, 1942; Freedman & Rockmore, 1946; Fort, 1965a, 1965b; Panama Canal Zone Governor's Committee, 1933; Phalen, 1943; Indian Hemp-Drug Commission, 1894; Watt, 1965; I Crim 5351 Calif. District Court of Appeal, 1st Appel. Dist.; United Nations, 1964a, 1964b)

Marijuana is not detrimental to the user's health. Even when used over long periods of time, it does not appear to cause physical or psychological impairment. (Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, New York City, 1944; Freedman & Rockmore, 1946; Fort, 1965a, 1965b; Panama Canal Zone Governor's Committee, 1933; Phalen, 1943; Indian Hemp-Drug Commission, 1894; Becker, 1963)

Marijuana does not tend to release "aggressive behavior." On the contrary, its use inhibits aggressive behavior; it acts as a "tranquilizer." (Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, New York City, 1944; Fort, 1965a, 1965b; Panama Canal Zone Governor's Committee, 1933; Phalen, 1943; Garattini, 1965)

Marijuana does not "lead to" or "promote" the use of addicting drugs. "Ninety-eight percent of heroin users started by smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol firsts" (Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, New York City, 1944; Fort, 1965a, 1965b; Panama Canal Zone Governor's Committee, 1933; Phalen, 1943; Garattini, 1965)

Marijuana comes from the Indian hemp plant, which was formerly grown widely in the United States for the making of rope, and which still grows wild in many areas. Up until a few years ago it was a main ingredient in commercial bird-seed. Leaves and flowering tops provide the cannabis (commonly known in the Western Hemisphere as marijuana, grass, or pot); the resin and pollen, in which the active ingredients are highly concentrated, are the source of "hashish.
" (Wolstenholme, 1965)

The effects of smoking marijuana have been described as follows: "euphoria, reduction of fatigue, and relief of tension . . . [It will] also increase appetite, distort the time sense, increase self-confidence, and, like alcohol, can relax some inhibitions." (Fort, 1965)

A heightened awareness of color and of esthetic beauty, and the production of rich and novel mental associations are also commonly reported effects. Some users report that the marijuana experience is "psychedelic": can result in heightened awareness, or in a consciousness-expanding change in perspective, ideas about the self, life, etc. Marijuana is not, however, like LSD---a very powerful psychedelic. Whereas LSD drastically alters thoughts and perspective, often "jarring" the user into heightened awareness, marijuana "suggests" or points the way to a moderately deepened awareness. The user is free to follow these potentials or not, as they present themselves. (Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, New York City, 1944; Fort, 1965a, 1965b ; Panama Canal Zone Governor's Committee, 1933; Goldstein, 1966; Becker, 1963; De Ropp, 1957; Indian Hemp-Drug Commission, 1894)

Pharmacological studies of marijuana and tetrahydrocannabinol (the major active ingredient) are as yet inconclusive, both because of insufficient research and because of the subtlety and complexity of its effect on the human mind. Garattini (1965) tested maze-learning in rats and found that marijuana caused no change or very slight impairment; Carlini and Kramer (1965) found that maze-learning was significantly improved by an injection of a marijuana extract. Multiple active ingredients are present in the marijuana plant, and these could vary in concentration (e.g., one of the components is sedative, and another is euphoric/psychedelic). (Wolstenholme, 1965; Watt, 1965; Carlini & Kramer, 1965)

Some years ago it was estimated that marijuana users numbered "several hundred thousand people in the United States, including many from the middle-class." (Fort, 1965a, 1965b) During the 1960's, however, there has been a rapid increase in the use of marijuana, particularly among "respectable" people: those in the professions, non-bohemian high school and college students, artists, writers, intellectuals, etc. One report on campus use (Goldstein, 1966) estimates that approximately 15% of college students have used or are using marijuana, with the percentage at some large, metropolitan campuses as high as 30-60%. This same report also held that marijuana use is now becoming "respectable," and indulged in by members of student government, campus groups, and fraternities and sororities. (Fort,1965a, 1965b; Irwin, 1966; Goldstein, 1966)

Marijuana smoking does not constitute a social hazard. Four separate official studies have been conducted on this question, as a part of a larger study: New York City Mayor's Committee in 1944; a committee of the health department of the U. S. Army; another U. S. Army committee, concerned with discipline effects; and a very thorough study by a committee established by the British Government to study the effects in India where it is-and was-in as widespread use as is alcohol here. All of these studies came to the conclusion: marijuana is not damaging to the user or to society, and therefore should not be outlawed. Political and economic pressures prevented authorities in New York from carrying out the recommendations of the Mayor's Committee---the greatest part of the political pressure from Harry J. Anslinger, former U. S. Commissioner of Narcotics. (Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, New York City, 1944; Panama Canal Zone Governor's Committee, 1933; Phalen, 1943 ; Indian Hemp-Drug Commission, 1894)

On the grounds that marijuana is safer and more beneficial than tobacco or alcohol (both of which are physically toxic; both of which are addicting), and that there is no basis for legalizing these two dangerous drugs while outlawing one which is not dangerous, attorneys are challenging the present laws. In the wording of one such legal brief: "The appellant contends that the classification of marijuana as a narcotic in Section 1101 (d) of Health and Safety Code and the marijuana prohibition law is based upon an arbitrary and unreasonable classification having no reasonable relation to the public health, safety, welfare, and morals.... The classification of marijuana as a narcotic is unconstitutional and void in violation of the Eighth Amendment provision against cruel and unusual punishment, and the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States." (1 Crim 5351 Calif. District Court of Appeal, First Appel. Dist., pp. 61-62 and Appendix 1, p. 6)

Among the authorities favoring legalization of marijuana, there have been medical doctors, lawyers, psychologists, sociologists, and even some religious leaders. Bishop Pike, for example, supports re-legalization. Lancet (1963), the British journal of medicine, in an editorial in 1963, found no good reason for marijuana being prohibited, but good reason why it should be legal. (Irwin, 1966)

Many authorities, however, remain opposed to the re-legalization of marijuana. Predominantly, these are law enforcement" authorities, or politicians (e.g., Attorney General Lynch of California). Although these authorities rarely give verifiable reasons for their insistence that marijuana be illegal, the ones which have been offered prove to be either unsubstantiated "opinions" or out-and-out mistaken data. In this same area, there was a time when law-breakers---taking their cue from the law-enforcement officials---claimed marijuana use as an excuse for their crimes. The fiction of a marijuana-crime relationship has been thoroughly detailed (if there is any correlation at all, it is in a negative direction---crimes of violence are drastically lower than would be statistically expected among marijuana users). (Fort, 1965a, 1965b; Phalen, 1943; Anslinger, 1932; 1 Crim 5351 Calif. District Court of Appeal, First Appel. Dist.; Irwin, 1966; Blum & Wahl, 1965; Boyko, Rotberg, & Disco, 1967; Laurie, 1967) See also below, pages 337 and 339.

"There are no apparent reasons for cannabis' status as a Dangerous Drug. It is not addictive, its use does not in Western society cause crime or unacceptable sexuality, and it does not lead to addiction to the hard drugs. The major problem with this drug is that it is illegal. This has three undesirable effects: first, an underground, cannabis-using sub- culture is created and maintained that puts the potential heroin addict one step nearer access to the hard drugs; second, it lessens respect for D.D.A. [Dangerous Drug Act] drugs in the thousands of young people who have tried marihuana or hashish and know from personal experience how harmless the drug is; third, it causes considerable waste of man-power, either through creative and educated people being sent to prison for possession of the drug-a Glasgow doctor was sentenced to six months recently-or through the use of policemen who would be better otherwise employed, to track down the drug and its users." (Laurie, I967)

"The smoking of the leaves, flowers and seeds of Cannabis sativa [marijuana] is no more harmful than the smoking of tobacco or mullein or sumac leaves.... The legislation in relation to marihuana was ill-advised . . . it branded as a menace and a crime a matter of trivial importance.... It is hoped that no witch-hunt will be instituted in the military service over a problem that does not exist." (Phalen, 1943)

"Two of the most common and widely used psychic modifiers are cannabis and alcohol.... First, marijuana is most often used in a social setting, in a group of users who mutually enjoy the effects of the drug. Second, the intent is to heighten enjoyment of outer experiences, e.g., conversation, listening to or performing music, dancing, joking. Unlike the Brahman priest, whose vocabulary during his intoxication is limited to repeating one of the names of his God, the marijuana devotee laughs, giggles, eats without restraint, tells jokes, participates in sexual relationships, and takes pleasure in the company of both men and women, especially if they are also using marijuana. Third, the effects are interpreted by a marijuana-user as analogous to those of alcohol. He prefers marijuana because the effects are more rapid and 'neater'; there is no hangover, and no debilitating physical consequences of chronic use. Thus, the use of cannabis in our society is to attain an experience which, far from renouncing the active life in favor of contemplative, ascetic ideal, affirms the pleasures of sex, music, food, laughter, and human companionship." (Chein et al., 1964)

Source:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/general/bruin.htm
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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ david boy,

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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aku juga dukung membuat kopi, rokok, dan alkohol ilegal, karena menimbulkan gangguan fisik dan psikis kepada para pengguna. Efek alkohol bahkan lebih parah daripada ganja. Haram!
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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragevize wrote:
Aku juga dukung membuat kopi, rokok, dan alkohol ilegal, karena menimbulkan gangguan fisik dan psikis kepada para pengguna. Efek alkohol bahkan lebih parah daripada ganja. Haram!


kalo ditawari ganja mau ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raydo12 wrote:
ragevize wrote:
Aku juga dukung membuat kopi, rokok, dan alkohol ilegal, karena menimbulkan gangguan fisik dan psikis kepada para pengguna. Efek alkohol bahkan lebih parah daripada ganja. Haram!


kalo ditawari ganja mau ?

Tergantung situasi. Kamu ditawari alkohol dan rokok marlboro mau?

Poin dari pertanyaan kamu ini apa? Mau memanfaatkan argumen ad hominem dari jawaban-jawabanku yang kamu anggap menurunkan kredibilitasku atas ajaran-ajaran Gereja?
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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragevize wrote:
Aku juga dukung membuat kopi, rokok, dan alkohol ilegal, karena menimbulkan gangguan fisik dan psikis kepada para pengguna. Efek alkohol bahkan lebih parah daripada ganja. Haram!


Efek kecanduan rokok dan alkohol memang 100X lebih berbahaya dari ganja.
Tapi kenapa rokok dan alkohol legal?

Kalo mau adil, apakah adil kalo ganja haram sedangkan rokok yang membunuh 5juta orang/thn nya halal dan tidak dimasukkan sebagai narkotika?

Apakah adil GK meng-halalkan rokok yang bisa menyebabkan kecanduan dan membunuh 5juta orang/thn tapi mengharamkan ganja karena ganja dimasukan kedalam kategori narkotika oleh pemerintah?

Apakah merokok ganja "Bejat"/"tidak bermoral" sedangkan merokok Marlboro "halal" dan "bermoral"?

Kalo saya merokok 1 gram ganja, saya berdosa berat.
Tapi kalo saya merokok 1 bungkus rokok setiap hari, selama saya memenuhi tanggung jawab saya, maka saya tidak melanggar hukum dan saya di anggap bermoral. Ini munafik namanya.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragevize wrote:
raydo12 wrote:
ragevize wrote:
Aku juga dukung membuat kopi, rokok, dan alkohol ilegal, karena menimbulkan gangguan fisik dan psikis kepada para pengguna. Efek alkohol bahkan lebih parah daripada ganja. Haram!


kalo ditawari ganja mau ?

Tergantung situasi.


situasi yang aman dan gak ada polisi ya ? Ketawa Ngakak
gak ada ya di sana ? di Kuta banyak orang Ausie bule yang nyimeng.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11-12-2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Narcotic is a term derived from the Greek word narke, meaning "stupor". It originally referred to any substance that relieved pain, dulled the senses, or induced sleep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcotic
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raydo12 wrote:
ragevize wrote:
raydo12 wrote:
ragevize wrote:
Aku juga dukung membuat kopi, rokok, dan alkohol ilegal, karena menimbulkan gangguan fisik dan psikis kepada para pengguna. Efek alkohol bahkan lebih parah daripada ganja. Haram!


kalo ditawari ganja mau ?

Tergantung situasi.


situasi yang aman dan gak ada polisi ya ? Ketawa Ngakak
gak ada ya di sana ? di Kuta banyak orang Ausie bule yang nyimeng.

Bukan situasi penegakan, tapi situasi hukum negara-nya. Sekali lagi, poin kamu apa? Aku tidak melihat hubungannya dengan post-post-ku.
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raydo12 wrote:
Narcotic is a term derived from the Greek word narke, meaning "stupor". It originally referred to any substance that relieved pain,

Banyak substansi yang merelieve pain tidak dianggap sebagai narkotik.

Quote:
dulled the senses,

Caffeine, tobacco, dan alchohol, dull the senses. Kamu sering rokok, minum kopi dan minum alkohol?

Quote:
or induced sleep.


Apakah ganja menidurkan orang?
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